Following a new train of thought here, don't really know where it's gonna go.
Entropy: what is it? It's a type of theory in thermodynamics, but I don't know much about that. Essentially though, it's used to describe the tendency of something to move towards chaos. Some synonyms are collapse, decay, decline, degeneration, and worsening.
When I build a building, I make it out of wood. I reinforce that wood by getting pressed oak or a weathering spray. I build my plywood kingdom, and I live in it. In 20 years, it stands strong. In 100 years, it still stands, but in a thousand years, my house has now fallen to the ground. The wood soaked in the water from the rain, rotted, died, and eventually failed. Why?
When I play my game boy, I choose a game, put in batteries, and sit on my bed for hours and loose myself in pokémon or something as awesome. But a few days of intense playing results in dead batteries. I have to replace these in order to continue.
I am born, and my cells reproduce through mitosis to keep me alive. However, in 20 years, my growing is finished. I no longer am living, but dying slowly. My cells begin to reproduce slower, and my wounds take longer to heal. By body in unable to function like it used to, until at some point a vital element gives out and I die.
These are three examples off the top of my head of chaos. One definition of chaos is a Chasm or Abyss, and hell is often described in the bible as an Abyss. Perhaps hell isn't fire and brimstone, but a lack of order completely?
Does this mean the nature of the world is to move towards hell?
This seems to me at least to be the disposition of relationships as well. It's like having a friendship or a romantic relationship is having a car for a long time; it's a constant battle between your desire for the car to survive, and it's natural desire to fail. In order for the car to work, you have to change the oil all the time, give it gas, clean it, change your transmission fluid, and all sorts of things like that, but sometimes there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent the car or relationship breaking down.
So if a relationship is supposed to model the relationship between god and his people, why is it that relationships deteriorate at the same rate as everything else? Of course, only a fool would think we as people are doing relationships right. It's obvious that, despite the fact that we are relational beings, we fail ultimately at the one thing that brings us fulfillment.
So relationships deteriorate at the same rate as everything else then. Does this mean that everything is just a controlled fall towards anarchy? Every attempt to add structure to anything results, eventually, in failure. If everything constantly moves towards chaos, entropy, does that mean that nothing can ever succeed? That kinda takes the motivation out of everything ever.
I'll probably come back to this later.
~wes~
15 December 2008
07 December 2008
Tyler Durden
Another late night eh?
"How Tyler saw it was that getting God’s attention for being bad was better than getting no attention at all. Maybe because God’s hate is better than His indifference.
If you could be either God’s worst enemy or nothing, which would you choose?
We are God’s middle children, according to Tyler Durden, with no special place in history and no special attention.
Unless we get God’s attention, we have no hope of damnation or redemption.
Which is worse, hell or nothing?
Only if we’re caught and punished can we be saved.
'Burn the Louvre,” the mechanic says, “and wipe your ass with the Mona Lisa. This way at least, God would know our names.'"
Just cause I don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't an interesting point. It seems like one that is regularly recreated in children, doesn't it? Kids that get in trouble for attention, at least.
Why are we as men attracted to Tyler's characteristics? I think because not only does he address a real issue, but he offers a solution, one with many flaws, but one that has a profound effect. Who cares if it's the wrong solution? It's something, and that's better than inaction. Anyone who's been frustrated with the world of inaction can identify. Or with the feeling of helplessness, Tyler's plan may fail in the end, but in the moment, each person has control over themselves. And by choosing to give their free will to project mayhem as they do, they make a decision of free will to do something instead of clinging to freedom and stagnating in inaction.
So violent beating of each other may not ALWAYS be the answer. But what about the proactiveness and action? I think sometimes the individual must step aside for the entity. That seems to be what Tyler kept getting at with his constant commentary on how fight club wasn't about him or the narrator. Nobody matters. Alone, each person is just a person, but united, for whatever reason, good or bad, men (women) can provide a serious strength. The risk in this is loosing one's self to the whole. Ironically, Tyler never asked anything less than complete integration into the machine of project mayhem.
What possess sane men to give up everything for a cause that doesn't give a shit about them? Sometimes, in a situation where the cause is "noble and just" like feeding starving children in africa or something, the benefits are obvious. But in project mayhem's case, the cause is anything but noble. In fact, it's not even legal. It makes me wonder about the natural conditions of man himself. Maybe every man and woman is already inclined towards devotion. Maybe that devotion is a skewed version of what should be a devotion to god? Instead it is aimed at other things, due to an inability to focus or be completely devoted to god in the first place.
Hmmm....this is an interesting thought process, but it's late. I'll pick up later. I still want to discuss more of the inherant natures of man, and don't let me forget to talk about universal tendency for entropy. Oh philosophy...>_<
~wes~
"How Tyler saw it was that getting God’s attention for being bad was better than getting no attention at all. Maybe because God’s hate is better than His indifference.
If you could be either God’s worst enemy or nothing, which would you choose?
We are God’s middle children, according to Tyler Durden, with no special place in history and no special attention.
Unless we get God’s attention, we have no hope of damnation or redemption.
Which is worse, hell or nothing?
Only if we’re caught and punished can we be saved.
'Burn the Louvre,” the mechanic says, “and wipe your ass with the Mona Lisa. This way at least, God would know our names.'"
Just cause I don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't an interesting point. It seems like one that is regularly recreated in children, doesn't it? Kids that get in trouble for attention, at least.
Why are we as men attracted to Tyler's characteristics? I think because not only does he address a real issue, but he offers a solution, one with many flaws, but one that has a profound effect. Who cares if it's the wrong solution? It's something, and that's better than inaction. Anyone who's been frustrated with the world of inaction can identify. Or with the feeling of helplessness, Tyler's plan may fail in the end, but in the moment, each person has control over themselves. And by choosing to give their free will to project mayhem as they do, they make a decision of free will to do something instead of clinging to freedom and stagnating in inaction.
So violent beating of each other may not ALWAYS be the answer. But what about the proactiveness and action? I think sometimes the individual must step aside for the entity. That seems to be what Tyler kept getting at with his constant commentary on how fight club wasn't about him or the narrator. Nobody matters. Alone, each person is just a person, but united, for whatever reason, good or bad, men (women) can provide a serious strength. The risk in this is loosing one's self to the whole. Ironically, Tyler never asked anything less than complete integration into the machine of project mayhem.
What possess sane men to give up everything for a cause that doesn't give a shit about them? Sometimes, in a situation where the cause is "noble and just" like feeding starving children in africa or something, the benefits are obvious. But in project mayhem's case, the cause is anything but noble. In fact, it's not even legal. It makes me wonder about the natural conditions of man himself. Maybe every man and woman is already inclined towards devotion. Maybe that devotion is a skewed version of what should be a devotion to god? Instead it is aimed at other things, due to an inability to focus or be completely devoted to god in the first place.
Hmmm....this is an interesting thought process, but it's late. I'll pick up later. I still want to discuss more of the inherant natures of man, and don't let me forget to talk about universal tendency for entropy. Oh philosophy...>_<
~wes~
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